TeXhax Digest Saturday, February 21, 1987 Volume 87 : Issue 12 TEXHAX12.87 Editor: Malcolm Brown Today's Topics: iptex and \special commands HEBREW FONT WITH TEX Need LaTeX command summary Greek capital Pis Latex bugs(?) + help please Point sizes for Computer Modern fonts. [spqr@uk.ac.soton.cm: ] BibTeX problems latex style for proceedings Marginal notes in plain TeX. NOTE from PEB "Standardized" font names Re: NOTE from PEB rlatex et al, latexfiles Re: Issue 09 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Feb 87 20:05:48 PST From: kurdahi%usc-poisson@usc-cse.usc.edu (Fadi Kurdahi) To: texhax%score%usc-poisson@usc-cse.usc.edu Subject: iptex and \special commands Hi, Is there a version of iptex that can handle \special commands in latex which are produced by graphic programs such as tpic ? Any help would be greatly appreciated. By the way, I would like to be added to your mailing list, if possible. Thanks, Fadi J. Kurdahi kurdahi@cse.usc.edu kurdahi@poisson.usc.edu EE-systems Dept. USC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 87 12:19:33 ZONE To: TEXHAX@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU From: ASSOUL%FRSAC11.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu Subject: HEBREW FONT WITH TEX E. ASSOULNE .. PARIS .. FRANCE IS THERE ANY HEBREW FONT AVAILABLE WITH TEX, DO YOU KNOW SOMETHING WITH HEBREW HYPHENATION... PLEASE GIVE ALL INFORMATIONS YOU KNOW. THANK YOU. ------------------------------ Date: 12 FEB 87 14:22 GMT To: TEXHAX@SU-SCORE.ARPA From: U04Z@CBEBDA3T.BITNET (Igor Metz, Dept. of CS, CH-Bern) Subject: Need LaTeX command summary Hi, Is there anybody out there in TeXland who has a LaTeX command summary as a LaTeX inputfile? Igor ------------------------------ Date: 12 February 1987, 15:28:05 EST From: "A. Peter Blicher" To: texhax@score Subject: Greek capital Pis If I am correct in guessing that sbbiovm is a machine running vm, then your problem may be similar to one we have here: tabs print as capital pis. We haven't figured out how to fix this, since the problem is some combination of ascii to ebcdic translation, character tables, and character types, all of which I have tried to avoid learning about. My solution is to convert tabs to equivalent spaces. I haven't tried using layout.sty, but you might see if it has some tabs, or if you are using tabs in your document. --peter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 87 16:48:35 GMT From: trh%ukc.ac.uk@Cs.Ucl.AC.UK To: texhax@score.stanford.edu Subject: Latex bugs(?) + help please Could somebody please identify whether the following are bugs in LaTeX or just misunderstandings by a naive user:- We are using Latex version 2.09 (18/12/85) and Tex version 2.0. In all cases the documentstyle is book. I can e-mail full texts to anyone who wants them. 1. Labelling chapters causes peculiar behaviour use \chapter{This is a chapter \label{chap}} and have at least two pages of text following. There is usually some error message like `missing control sequence inserted' to start with carrying on leads to an overful hbox containing a very garbled page header of the form CHAPTER1 title \NEWLABEL11\NEWLABEL1............. Further perserverence leads to the error messages being placed in the dvi file along with lots of \newlabel constructions. This all goes away if the \label is removed from the \chapter. 2. Starting an enumeration at something other than one in non-default format bombs out. e.g., \begin{enumerate} \setcounter{enumi}{4} \roman{enumi} \item junk \end{enumerate} produces `Latex error - something's wrong -- perhaps a missing \item'. Forcing latex to carry on produces a iv label in a mangled enumeration. 3. Can't change the format of an item tag inside a newtheorem e.g., use \newtheorem{exercise}{\small \bf EXERCISE}[chapter] then \begin{exercise} \begin{enumerate} \roman{enumi} \item should be a roman tag \end{enumerate} \end{exercise} produces a label 1. While I'm here can somebody please help with the following problems a) How do I temporarily switch off the output of figures? I want to define a newenvironment along the lines of \newenvironment{codeburst}{ switch off figure output; output code} { switch figure output back on} I've tried setting totalnumber to zero, textfraction to 1, topfraction to zero and both topnumber and bottomnumber to zero all without success. Setting totalnumber to zero and printing the current setting returns a null string rather than 0. b) How can I construct an exercise environment which will allow me to label and ref particular exercises? I'd be quite happy to use newtheorem if I could get the text to come out in roman rather than italic. Many thanks in advance for any assistance. Tim Hopkins, Computing Laboratory, University of Kent, Canterbury CT2 7NF Kent U.K. { trh@ukc.UUCP trh%ukc@ucl-cs.ARPA na.hopkins@su-score.ARPA } ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 87 18:06:15 EST From: Karl Berry To: texhax%score.stanford.edu@RELAY.CS.NET Subject: Point sizes for Computer Modern fonts. In the last issue of TeXhax, Martin Gelbaum sent in an edited copy of lfonts.tex, pointing out that LaTeX didn't use some of the new standard CM fonts, like cmr12. Good point. In fact, you can do even better than that -- in the last issue of TUGboat, John Sauter of DEC wrote that he had some new files that would make Computer Modern fonts at any point size (at the cost of a run through Metafont, of course). So, ALL the fonts in lfonts.tex can be done at their true size -- you can even do fonts that *aren't* in lfonts.tex! Of course, his interpolations aren't as good as actually hand-specifying the parameters, but they're a whole lot better than magnifications. His original scripts were for VMS; I have some equivalent ones for Unix, and I've sent on the files (and a modified lfonts.tex) to the Unix TeX site distribution folks, so perhaps they'll start showing up soon. If anyone wants the Unix versions of the scripts, I'll send them out. If anyone wants the VMS versions, you should write to John directly (and be sure to thank him while you're at it for doing all the hard work). The electronic address that worked for me was sauter%dssdev.dec@decwrl.dec.com (Arpanet). Karl kbb%cs.brown.edu@cs.net.relay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 87 10:57:31 GMT From: Stephen Page To: texhax@score.stanford.edu Subject: [spqr@uk.ac.soton.cm: ] BibTeX problems [Forwarded from a user who has not yet got himself ARPA gateway authorization] From: Date: Sun, 8 Feb 87 23:07:54 GMT BibTeX problems: I have followed the recent correspondence about BibTeX features with great interest, after spending some months trying to hack `alpha.bst' to produce an English Harvard-like output. With a lot of help from (inter alia), the ACM .bst file and Stephen Gildea's NATSCI .bst file, I have finally got something that a) works and b) more importantly, I understand. I now have a new problem: I have references as follows: J Richards 1978 C Richards 1980 J Richards 1982 The labels generated for the text are Richards 1978, Richards 1980 and Richards 1982 (dont bother to tell me its not a good idea!), but I want the references in the order Richards, C 1980 Richards, J 1980 Richards, J 1982 so all of J's stuff comes togther. The problem is that BibTeX sorts using the text label as its key. How can I persuade it to sort on extra fields, without getting those in the text? answers on an (electronic) postcard to Sebastian Rahtz, Computer Science, Southampton, UK Either (uucp) ...!ukc!sot-cm!spqr or (Bitnet) spqr%sot-cm@uk.ac.ncl.cheviot or (Bitnet) rahtz@uk.ac.ox.vax1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 87 10:34:16 est From: mroth@afit-ab.ARPA (Mark A. Roth) To: texhax@score Subject: latex style for proceedings I know that I have seen somewhere a document style for LaTeX which does proceedings format and on the first page leaves the space at the bottom left for the copyright, copying policy information. I have looked through all of my previous texhax messages to no avail. Can anyone point this out to me again? Thanks, Mark Roth (mroth@afit) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 87 10:47:34 PST From: Reply-To: DHOSEK%HMCVAX.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu To: TEXHAX@score.stanford.edu Subject: Marginal notes in plain TeX. Yes, yes, I know that it is trivial to do mariginal notes in LaTeX... However, I have a user who would like to have marginal notes in plain TeX. Has anyone either written the plain tex equivalent of the LaTeX marginal macros or pulled the necessary code out of the LaTeX format? G'day -Don Hosek or for those who enjoy typing: ``Interpolation with noise removal can be very effective in eliminating random errors in data.'' -HMC Modelling and plotting manual ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 87 10:47:54 PST From: Reply-To: PEB%DM0MPI11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu To: TEXHAX@score.stanford.edu Subject: NOTE from PEB Date: 14 February 1987, 14:42:51 GMT From: Peter Breitenlohner (089) 31893-412 PEB at DM0MPI11 Max-Planck-Institut fuer Physik (Werner-Heisenberg-Institut) Foehringer Ring 6 D-8000 Muenchen 40 Subject: more mathematical symbols. Re: Martin Gelbaum in issue 09/87 I think a complete set of uppercase script letters (not just an L for lagrangian) would be desirable. They are available in many math/phys journals and look much nicer than the uppercase \cal letters. In addition `blackboard bold' is often wanted for the standard sets or fields of numbers (e.g. Z for integers, P for rationals, R for reals, C for complex, Q or H for quaternions,...). Most of them can, of course be manufactured in a more or less satisfactory way by overprinting, but it is not entirely trivial to get them automatically right if they appear e.g. in subscripts. Peter Breitenlohner ( PEB@DM0MPI11.BITNET ) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 87 13:17:57 CST From: William LeFebvre Subject: "Standardized" font names To: TeXhax@score.stanford.edu > It has been a tremendous convenience to have all LaTeX fonts > begin with the letter l, (Computer Modern all start with c, invisible > fonts all start with i, local Washington adaptations all start with > w, and Turkish fonts start with t. AMS fonts start with m, except > for the euler fonts which start with e). The whole thing is This brings a question to mind. Is there any set prefix for the fonts that the METAFONT helper program, gftodvi, uses? gftodvi expects the names "gray" and "black", and it also wants a font named "logo" (for the METAFONT logo). Seems to me that these names should be changed to conform to this standardized naming scheme. This, of course, would require changing gftodvi as well. I would suggest using "m", but that is already taken. Perhaps "f"? William LeFebvre Department of Computer Science Rice University ------------------------------ Date: Sun 15 Feb 87 06:06:15-PST From: TEX Guests Subject: Re: NOTE from PEB To: PEB%DM0MPI11.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU a rather inelegant 'blackboard bold' is contained in font msym10, created at the american math society. font charts of the two math society "extra symbol" fonts appeared in tugboat 6#3, page 126. these fonts, along with cyrillic fonts (described in the same tugboat article) and, i believe, a fraktur font (designated "euler" and designed by hermann zapf), are now available in several printer resolutions and magnifications through \magstep 4 (or perhaps 5 in some cases) on ibm pc-compatible floppy disks. for more details, write to american matheamtical society attn: paul martin p o box 6248 providence, ri 02940 u.s.a. -- barbara beeton (bnb@xx.lcs.mit.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 87 12:35:29 CST From: grunwald@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Dirk Grunwald) To: texhax@score.stanford.edu Subject: rlatex et al, latexfiles Our site has TeX running a subset of the machines, but we have many home machines which don't run TeX. I've written a set of programs to allow us ``remote access' to the latex and tex programs. These are are all running under 4.2, and they've been running on: Vax 4.2, Vax 4.3, Pryamid 3.x, Encore 2.1, Sun 2.0, Sun 3.0 3b2 running 5.3. You need to have rdist, csh and rsh for the scripts to work. + C program 'latexfile' looks through a .tex files, finds all references to \input, \include \includeonly \bibliography \blackandwhite \colorslides, and handles the semantics of \includeonly. It generates, to stdout, a list of files which the command-line file depends on. If you \include{foo}, it will check to see if it can find foo.tex & foo.aux. + Csh program 'rlatex' uses the latexfiles program to determine the dependencies of your tex files. It then finds a lightly loaded latex-running host, creates a copy of your directory in a /tmp file on that machine using 'rdist'. It maintains information about where it put the directory the last time it ran latex, and will update the last copy rather than re-copy everything. For multi-part documents, this saves a lot of RCP traffic. It then copies back everything from the remote directory that is newer than your current directory (i.e. new .aux .log .dvi, etc ). You can also run a sequence of bibtex, tex or latex commands, as well run things in a 'batchmode'. I'm not going to offer support for these at the moment, but if others would like the files & the script, send mail to grunwald@m.cs.uiuc.edu & I'll send it out. Dirk Grunwald Univ. of Illinois grunwald@m.cs.uiuc.edu ------------------------------ From: lamport@decwrl.DEC.COM (Leslie Lamport) Date: 11 Feb 1987 0909-PST (Wednesday) To: texhax-request@score.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Issue 09 Re: the lfonts.tex file ... gets the 12pt fonts by scaling up the 10 pt ones. The 12pt fonts, cmr12 etc, are never used. The immediate solution to this problem is to get the current version of lfonts.tex. This still leaves a long term problem. If TeX is to remain a viable system, its font selection will have to expand. Once people get over the thrill of simply being able to typeset technical material properly, they will demand the range of fonts that the printing industry takes for granted. (This will probably require that TeX be able to use PostScript fonts, as mentioned in a previous TeXHaX note.) I have no intention of producing versions of lfonts.tex for every new font that comes out. Site coordinators will have to assume the responsibility of customizing the lfonts.tex file themselves if they want a version of LaTeX that uses Century Schoolbook fonts. (Note that with TeX's space limitations, one will probably want a separate version of LaTeX for Century Schoolbook, rather than a Century Schoolbook style.) Leslie Lamport ------------------------------ % %\bye % End of TeXhax Digest **************************